Chris Forrester, Christopher Tarnovsky, the alleged smart card hacker at the core of the recent lawsuit between Echostar and encryption specialists NDS, has given a detailed interview to speciality magazine Wired. Tarnovsky says he feels completely vindicated by the outcome of the trial, which was five years in preparation. NDS was found guilty but given an insignificant penalty of just $45, (and damages of an equally modest $1500), and leaving Echostar and fellow-plaintiff NagraStar with a legal bill said to top $20m. Tarnovsky, 37, during the trial said he was being set up, but he tells Wired that he was confident of the outcome, and that Echostar and the other plaintiffs had no evidence of wrongdoing. Tarnovsky worked under the online code name “Big Gun” during much of the past six years employed by NDS (initially at a salary of $65,000 a year). He was let go last year, but his final year’s salary was – he says - $245,000 including bonus payments, plus $100,000-worth of stock options. He explains how he was involved at NDS for developing electronic counter measures for NDS and their client DirecTV, including the “Black Sunday” ECM which wiped out thousands of hacked cards a week ahead of the 2001 Super Bowl game. He insists that the trial proved that neither he or NDS acted against NagraStar, nor was he pirating cards on his own account. Tarnovsky also says he wants to work at NDS again, or perhaps Kudelski, claiming – probably with some justification – that he knows the codes inside out, and that Nagra could, with him, catch NDS up overnight.