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Are you a lucky person ?

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  1. Abuyassine

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      16-09-2008 22:20
    If we look hither & thither, we'll see 2 types of persons : some are born lucky & they are provided with everything ; others have no luck & they move from one hardship to the other. What about analyzing the topic with open minds & trying to find out some logical and convincing explanations? Why are millions of people brought to life with happiness and they spend their whole days moving luckily from success to success ? And why, on the other hand, do millions keep moving from failure to failure ? Do you see some explanations ? And what about you ? Do you belong to those who smile or to those who cry

    ?

    :satelite:
     
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  2. tayaa-mtb

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      16-09-2008 22:46
    well; i understand what you are saying; but frankly i don't actually believe about luck; i believe that everything happens for a purpose and everything happens for a reason; and there isn't coincidences; so when we see someone who really have it all and everything works for him, and we see someone else diying from work and doing everything he can and nothing good happens to him; i just say; that's life
    and Allah is fair with everyone, so if we see someone "unlucky" in this life; i think he will get lucky in the afterlife
    and we see someone "lucky" in this life; well; i don't know about that;;
     
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  3. Forrest Gump

    Forrest Gump كبير مراقبي منتدى الفرنسيّة و الانقليزيّة طاقم الإدارة

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      17-09-2008 01:24
    i totally agree with you tayaa-mtb, this is life and there must be some persons that they have everything and others dont.however,i prefer take the word "lucky" by all its meaning and not only the ones related to money or success, in that way, all of us can be very lucky; lucky to be muslims,lucky to have good families,good friends...etc.
    to my mind, the problem is how a "lucky" persons see the "unlucky" ones because what's happening in our society is that superiority look of the "lucky" person to the others and (here im talking about the "lucky" person who is born having everything)i mean they have already everything but sometimes they insist to get something that an "unlucky" persons needs more
    i guess it must be a complementary relationship between the two categories because god gave them much then they need just to help others and not to abuse them
     
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  4. AYOUDA24

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      17-09-2008 07:19
    I personally think that if all people are rich there will be no balance in our life : This is the way life was created : There must be poor and there must be rich otherwise there will be no balance.

    There is an Arabic proverb that says:
    "لو كنت انا امير و انت امير فمن سيركب الحمير"

    If all people are rich, then whose gonna bake bread everyday, whose gonna sell fruit and vegetables in the market, whose gonna go fishing, whose gonna clean the streets and collect the garbage, whose gonna make furniture, whose gonna employ people and pay them at the end of each month and so on and so forth.

    The rich help the poor and the poor help the rich: it’s cyclic

    And as for your second question which is why does Our Allah the Almighty makes of some people lucky and others no: this it to:

    1) Test the unlucky and see if they can stand despite all the barriers that face them and if they will stay obedient to him no matter what happens to them.

    2)Test the lucky people and see also if these people will remember the grace of Allah the Almighty and if they will thank him day and night by worshipping and by believing deepdown on him.


    Being a lucky or a rich person doesn’t mean that Allah the Superior loves him/her and being poor or unlucky doesn’t mean that Allah the Almighty hates him/her

    There is a Hadeeth by our Prophet Muhamed PBUH that says that:

    "اذا احب الله عبداً ابتلاه"

    Shakespeare has full right when he said that “ Life is a stage and we are actors”: We, who ever we are rich or poor, are playing roles in this life: Each one of us will be judged on what he has done along his life; on the role he has played on this stage
     
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  5. shaficko

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      01-03-2009 23:53
    I believe in every thing expect the justice of life, because there are many people who born with luck and too many people who born with no luck, and i mean with "luck", circumstances of life because we come to life as white page, so no child merit to be sick or poor, but it's not what i see. for me, the luck born with the child but if not, he can say "by" to luck. i hope you understand me. thnks
     
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  6. issam19

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      02-03-2009 00:01
    Personnellement, j'ai un petit avis qui résume mon opinion

    est que

    La chance ne vient qu'à ceux qui la mérite
     
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      02-03-2009 01:32
    Concepts of "lucky" and "unlucky" are so relative.. we can't even find a general and convincing definition..
    for example if we suppose that rich people are lucky, than poor ones ,in this case, are unlucky.. but why we see sometimes that these rich are not happy and satisfied and they don't think that they are lucky!!

    I think that it's too relative and it's closely related to the satisfaction and the contentment of each person..

    "est que La chance ne vient qu'à ceux qui la mérite?"

    I think Issam that luck and " no luck" or in other terms success and failure , if we adopt this definition (which I'm not totally agree :) ) , are some cases in human destiny.. they are just some exams and steps in human life.. so we can't say that just persons who merit are lucky.. there are a lot of different and contradictory cases..

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. shaficko

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      02-03-2009 22:38
    Je vois toujours des personnes qui suivent des chemins contre nos traditions et notre religion et pourtant ils sont chanceux et ils s'éclatent dans leurs vies sans soucis, alors que des autres personnes qui suivent le droit chemin la vie les écrase et les empêche d'avancer avec des obstacles dans leurs vies, bref, la vie est injuste et la majorité de ceux qui ont de la chance ne le méritent pas.
    "el 7amdoulah wakahaw
     
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      03-03-2009 23:27
    Hi everyone

    Thanks a lot for this subject

    For me I disagree with most of you

    This not logical that god create some of us as lucky and other unlucky, this is not fair at all

    Sorry but I’m not convinced that God will give the unlucky person the paradise after their death and there is a doubt about the situation of the lucky ones!!!!!!

    Sorry but this is mockery
    God give me a painfully life and after death he give me paradise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Then I ask why this can happen and for what !!!!!???????

    Generally, there are three types of people .

    One thinks he has to do a thing; he himself is THE DOER. He simply lives on his small energy, and naturally is defeated again and again and proves a failure.

    the second type of person is one who thinks, "When God is doing everything, I need not do anything. I'm not supposed to do anything." HE SIMPLY SITS AND WAITS. His life becomes more and more lazy, and there comes a point when he no longer lives, he simply vegetates.

    the third type of man, the real man: WHO KNOWS HOW TO DO AND WHO KNOWS HOW NOT TO DO; who can be a doer when needed, can say "Yes!", and who can be passive when needed and can say "No"; who is utterly wakeful in the day and utterly asleep in the night; who knows how to inhale and how to exhale; who knows the balance of life.

    "TRUST IN ALLAH, BUT TETHER YOUR CAMEL FIRST."


    This saying comes from a small story:

    A MASTER WAS TRAVELING with one of his disciples. The disciple was in charge of taking care of the camel. They came in the night, tired, to a caravanserai. It was the disciple's duty to tether the camel; he didn't bother about it, he left the camel outside. Instead of that he simply prayed. He said to God, "Take care of the camel," and fell asleep.

    In the morning the camel was gone -- stolen or moved away, or whatsoever happened. The Master asked, "What happened to the camel? Where is the camel?"

    And the disciple said, "I don't know. You ask God, because I had told Allah to take care of the camel, and I was too tired, so I don't know. And I am not responsible either, because I had told him, and very clearly! There was no missing the point. Not only once in fact, I told him thrice. And you go on teaching 'Trust Allah', so I trusted. Now don't look at me with anger."

    The Master said, "Trust in Allah but tether your camel first -- because Allah has no other hands than yours."
     
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  10. NEW mido 12

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      03-03-2009 23:38
    السلام عليكم و رحمة الله
    First i want to think Mr bravex for this interesting subject .
    second i don't belive about "lack" but i think that i'am lacky i'am lacky because i 'am with you.

    But i belive just of allah and i think that god make us laky or no.

    thanks

     
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